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Jillian Locvich [00:01:21]:
Welcome.
Cassie Kellner [00:01:22]:
Welcome to The Bloom Effect. I'm your host, Cassie Kellner. I am beyond excited to introduce you to my guest, who means the absolute world to me. I told all of you in my first podcast this month that I was about to get really personal, and we are just, like, coming out of the gates with all the personal things. We are joined today by my wonderful, intelligent, beautiful niece, Jillian Locvich. Jilly, welcome to.
Jillian Locvich [00:01:55]:
Oh, thank you. I'm so excited to be here. I am so excited.
Cassie Kellner [00:01:59]:
Jilly. Okay, so we should preface that like I call you Jilly. Sometimes I call you Bean because Jilly Bean from when you were little, you know, like, the whole nickname thing just evolved into, like, craziness. You call me Auntie so that all of that is going to slip in this podcast.
Jillian Locvich [00:02:24]:
Oh, yeah, right, sure.
Cassie Kellner [00:02:25]:
People need to get used to it. So.
Jillian Locvich [00:02:28]:
Yes.
Cassie Kellner [00:02:29]:
So, Jilly one, I want to have you on this podcast because I love and adore you and I'm grateful for you and I'm thankful for you, and that is what this month is all about. And the second piece is you are a Gen Z in the workplace, and I. I feel like it's time that we give you guys a voice. You know, I'm, I'm. Listen, I'm a millennial. You know, I talk about this all the time. I'm an elder millennial, actually. And I can be really, like, cheugy and you know this.
Jillian Locvich [00:03:11]:
And, like, sometimes I like.
Cassie Kellner [00:03:13]:
Right. Like, sometimes I think I'm, like, cooler than I am, and you put me in my place and so do my other nieces. But I. I want to have this conversation with you because I think it's really important one that you're Gen Z, but as a millennial, like, we got so much crap for years about millennials, this and millennials, dad. And millennials need all of these things. And oh, oh, they're just millennials. And then all of a sudden, and it's, like, shifted, and now it's like, oh, Gen Z doesn't show up. Gen Z doesn't like to work. Gen Z will ghost you all these things, right? Like, they're not reliable. We got a lot of this stuff as millennials when we were your age. Right? And we probably still get some of this too, but.
Jillian Locvich [00:04:05]:
Right.
Cassie Kellner [00:04:06]:
We. It's just, I think it's important to give each generation a voice. And you were there with me at the AAO this year. So much of my lecture at the AAO was like, generational divides and how. I think it's really important for us to shift our mindsets in. Yeah, we can talk about all the things that Gen Z brings into the workplace, but how about we also focus on all of the amazing things that Gen Z brings in the workplace? And so you are such. You are like, the definition of all of the wonderful things that Gen Z brings in the workplace place. And so I want to talk about your journey in orthodontics or in dentistry as a whole. Right. You started in general dentistry. Can we talk about, like, how that happened? Do you remember when you called me or maybe you text me and you were like, oh, this dentist reach out to me. It was, like, really, really wild.
Jillian Locvich [00:05:08]:
And it was really random. So what actually happened was I applied to RDA, like, a schooling to go to. To do dental assisting. But I kind of was like, because I think I was 19 at the time, I just graduated high school. And I really didn't really. I didn't know what I wanted to do. So I put my resume on, indeed, just to have it out there. And he actually found it. It was a local dentist. He found it. He messaged me and offered me to on the job train, which I of course jumped at because I was like, now I don't have to pay thousands of dollars or commute to a place that I think was an hour away from my house. So not that I'm against a commute, but when I saved all that time and money, it worked out. But I did start in October of 2020, so I jumped into the healthcare field. Literally amidst COVID, so I'm not gonna say it wasn't a crazy time. There was protocols changing all the times, air diffusers, N95, double masking gloves. Like really cleaning in between patients while trying to take care of yourself so that you're not bringing it home because you don't know what's going on in that time. Yeah, I stayed there for about three years and I learned so, so much from that doctor. He was amazing. The assistants were amazing. The hygienist, I still talk to all of them to this day. I'd say that was a unicorn office for me for sure. How I still have the connections with everybody there. But what really made me do the change was I wanted more, what do you call it, independence. I wanted more hands on. I didn't want to just be on the side watching what everybody was doing the whole time. So of course it was a no brainer to go into orthodontics because of my lovely aunt here. Of course. So I found an office that I actually went to an orthodontic consult for. They offered me a job like a year prior. So I reached out and I was like, hey, is that like still on the table? And they were like, yeah. So I interviewed, he hired me actually that day. And I started, I think two, maybe three weeks later. And I've been there for two years now.
Cassie Kellner [00:07:28]:
It's wild. Like, it's really, really, really cool as your aunt to watch your journey and selfishly, I'm really proud that it looks so much like mine.
Jillian Locvich [00:07:42]:
Me too, Me too. That's the goal.
Cassie Kellner [00:07:46]:
But I, you know, and I'm so proud of you for making this jump. I remember. You know, I think we should speak to this too, Jilly. Like the terrifying jump from general to ortho.
Jillian Locvich [00:07:59]:
Yeah, it was a completely different language. You go from universal to Palmer teeth. You're like, huh, I have two ones. What do you mean? And they're next to each other. Like, I mean, at the time you think that that's really scary, but then you get into all of it and it just, you get the rhythm.
Cassie Kellner [00:08:20]:
Yeah, I, I, I think, you know, to speak to that too. Like some of the, the, the fears that you had. I remember like talking this through with you and going like, it is really, really, really scary to jump but if you have somebody that's willing to teach you and knows that you don't know much about orthodontics, even if you were to go into a general dental assisting program, they do teach you like a chapter in Ortho, but it's not like there's much there unless you go into an extended program. So, you know, I love, I love that you made the jump. I love that we have. Obviously I'm biased, but we have the same very similar journeys. So let's talk about Gen Z stereotypes. Like, true Gen Z stereotypes. What is your take on them? Like, tell me everything. Do you feel like you fit in the mold or you're out of the mold or you're both? Tell me.
Jillian Locvich [00:09:23]:
You know, I feel like there is, of course, a broad variety of us Gen zers. I feel like the chunk that I am in, we don't feel quite fit into the mold because when, I mean, I'm 25, so I do feel like I am at the, like, the higher genders, Gen Z years. So we didn't. The elder Gen Z. Yeah, exactly. So I didn't grow up essentially with an iPad in my hand, but I was young enough when Instagram hit, so, you know, we felt like we had to be on the social media. We have to have a social media presence. But I don't have a social media presence that a lot of Gen zers do. I mean, as you know, I have zero Instagram posts. I'll post a story, like, every now and then as there's some people who are posting 10, 20 stories a day of like, day in their lives, which I love to watch, but I'm just quiet on the sidelines. Like, that's the type of Gen Z that I fit into. While a lot of the other stuff does resonate with me, like being emotionally fluent, you know, being able to pick my feelings and express how I feel without being, I don't know, come across mad or sad or overwhelmed, stuff like that. I feel like that's the big high part of being a Gen Z. That's the point that I like that we get that. I feel like millennials, they kind of choke down how they feel to just.
Cassie Kellner [00:10:54]:
Like, work, work, work, work, work, you know? I do also think that it depends on how you're brought up, what you're watching, you know, who. Who are your mentors, you know, things like that. But I think it's important that you're right. Like you, you have a voice and you use it, and that's incredibly important. Yeah, from a Gen Z perspective. A lot of times people are like, they're not reliable. They don't show up, they ghost. And by the way, you are a Gen Zer. But you've also experienced a little bit of this in, in practice, right?
Jillian Locvich [00:11:30]:
Oh yeah, absolutely. I think it's just the area that we're in and the times that we're in, it was really hard to come by, really good assistance. We, we get some people in and I mean, just six months ago we had a girl come work for us. She was here for three days and then just never came back. But she was not a Gen Z, she was a Gen X. So that was why I wanted to bring that up. Because it's not just Gen Z, People are always like, Gen Z, Gen Z, Gen Z. That was a Gen Xer. And she ghosted.
Cassie Kellner [00:12:07]:
So it's true, Jilly.
Jillian Locvich [00:12:10]:
But we do get Gen Z's. We have. I actually just hired a new Gen Z though. That is amazing. So again, we're praising Gen Z. She's amazing. She's been so great. She's I think 20. That's Gen Z, right?
Cassie Kellner [00:12:22]:
Yeah, Yep. I think it's really important too to, to just go back to what you said. Like a lot of times I think people are like, oh, the new generation, they don't want this. Which by the way, sure is some of that true, 100%. But I feel like this is just right now in the workplace, like 20, 25 workplace, people are not showing up to interviews. They aren't, you know, they'll show up their first week and then they don't show up again or they show up and then they're late for four weeks, you know, almost every single day. And I have to be honest. And people can disagree. And you can disagree too, Jilly. I don't think it has to do with their age.
Jillian Locvich [00:13:08]:
No, no, I truly think it does have. Coming back to what you said, how you're brought up, who your parents are. You know, if your parents aren't getting up at 5am and going to work and hustling until 6pm, then you're not doing that because you didn't grow up seeing them doing that hustle. You know, as my mom's worked multiple jobs before, I spent a lot of time with my grandma growing up so that she could work, you know. So. Yeah, it just comes with how you're brought up.
Cassie Kellner [00:13:39]:
Yeah, I think it's that it's people around you. It's, it's, it's, it's mindset, it's it's mindset shifts on like, oh no, I'm actually going to show up because this job is important to me. And also I want this job to become a career. And that is really important to me as well. And so it's mindset shifts and it doesn't matter what generation you're in. We all like for, fall into, all of us in different generations. Like, we make fun of your grandma, my mother, constantly about being a boomer and. But, but at the same time, like she showed up, like she, she does all the things, you know. And so I think while she's not tech savvy, she is still willing to learn.
Jillian Locvich [00:14:26]:
Oh, absolutely.
Cassie Kellner [00:14:27]:
So like we put again boomers into these categories of like, yeah, they're not tech savvy. They can't do it. They just. That's not true. And so again, this sounds like my AAO lecture. Are you getting flashbacks?
Jillian Locvich [00:14:39]:
A little bit. Yeah. I feel like I can fill in some of the blanks.
Cassie Kellner [00:14:43]:
Totally. But it's true. And you are just. And this is why you're here too. Not only do I love you and you're my niece and this is the whole thankful theme of this month, but you are in this industry and you don't fit the molds that. I don't even know if there is a mold. Like people have created this thing that then everyone can jump onto. And I find it that it's a little bit unfair for everyone. Everyone. Every single generation.
Jillian Locvich [00:15:13]:
Yeah, absolutely. I don't think we should ever put anybody in a box. There's always room to grow.
Cassie Kellner [00:15:18]:
Yes, girl. Oh my. You sound like me. This is hysterical. Okay, so you show up in a really dedicated way to your practice. Right. What does day to day look like for you? Like, is it different than people who might expect someone who's 25 years old, like your age to do, or is it just like the norm?
Jillian Locvich [00:15:46]:
Probably nobody would expect that. I'm up by 4am doing Pilates by 5. I have a 40 minute command. I'm to work by 7. I work an 8 hour shift. I'm in the gym after work and then two days. Two days, Two days. But I only do Pilates two times a week these days, focusing more on strength training. But I'm also an audiobook snob. I love a good audiobook, especially if they're a Brit, like all day. I will listen to anybody. They could be telling the worst story in the world and I would still be listening because I just love that it's so good. But I'm never Late. I'm always on time. I'm constantly 110%, like, you cannot pay me to sit still. Like, that is just not in me. I always have to be go, go, go. If not going, going, going. I feel like something's off. I'm not doing something right. And when other people aren't go, go, go. That bothers me too. And I feel like I have to. You know, not everybody works like you do. Not everybody's work ethic is like yours. My boyfriend has probably the strongest work ethic out of anybody I know. This man will work 12 hour shifts seven days a week, all year if he could. You know, he picks up side jobs all the time. So when I show up to work, I think of him, you know, I think of everything that he's putting in his 110. So I always want to give my 110 because they say you want to kind of, you know, match your partner's vibe. So we definitely, we do that.
Cassie Kellner [00:17:30]:
Oh, 100. I love this. He's, he's so hard working and another fellow Gen Z er. Okay, so let's take him out of the box. Take him out of the box, people.
Jillian Locvich [00:17:40]:
Yep, he is out.
Cassie Kellner [00:17:42]:
He's got a crazy commute working at like, yeah, come on, listen, he's next level. Okay?
Jillian Locvich [00:17:50]:
He's so next level. He is, he. He has his own box. Like, there's nobody else that fits in that box. Like, that is Diego's box.
Cassie Kellner [00:18:00]:
I love it. Okay, so let's to kind of talk about breaking the mold. Have you ever felt like there was a moment, like in your career where you were really breaking the Gen Z stereotype?
Jillian Locvich [00:18:21]:
Yeah, actually when I. I'd say when I started in orthodontics for sure I had a stronger voice. I was 23, so I was a little bit older, a little more mature. So I had more confidence in giving post op instructions and explaining the things. And I had a mom actually tell me, like, you're only 25. Like, she asked, like, how old are you? And I told her and she's like, you're only 25. I did not expect you to only be 25 and you could handle this. And you explained my treatment plan thoroughly and I understood everything that you said and it was just well put. And I think in that moment I realized I'm like, right where I need to be and that I don't fit into that stereotype because I'm not shy to go out and grab my patients or give my post op instructions or be confident in what I'M telling them because I know my stuff. I took the time to learn and listen to my peers and my mentors and my doctors, and I was moldable. I think that's a huge thing that a lot of people aren't is. It's not a bad thing to be moldable. You want to be moldable. The more you know, the more valuable you are.
Cassie Kellner [00:19:29]:
Ooh, yes, girl. Okay. 100%.
Jillian Locvich [00:19:33]:
Reach all day, raise the roof.
Cassie Kellner [00:19:37]:
Okay. But that's so true, Jilly. And also, you know, you have done. In two years, you have pretty much. I think you've done all. Every single role in the practice. Like, you were totally cross trained.
Jillian Locvich [00:19:51]:
Oh, absolutely. 110%. I do not to this day, I don't. We've got everybody filling in the roles now, but at times, I was picking up loose ends and doing what needed to be done because, again, I was multiple and I liked the opportunities. I did a little bit of marketing. I did some treatment coordination. I do front desk duties daily. Still back all the time. I'm lead RDA, so I'm doing ordering, stocking, maintenance, making sure that the girls have what they need and that they're supported.
Cassie Kellner [00:20:24]:
Jillian, I'm so proud of you. Like, obviously, I know all these things. We talk all the time. Like, this podcast is making it seem like we never chat. Okay. Like, we're on the phone all the time.
Jillian Locvich [00:20:36]:
All the time.
Cassie Kellner [00:20:37]:
But I just. I'm so proud of you and what you do. And that's why, again, this is so important. Like, you. You do bring. You are coachable, Chili. You are coachable. You have been trained. And even at times, which, by the way, this is not. This is just true to any ortho practice. Like, sometimes you lose people and you're scrambling and you have got to figure it out.
Jillian Locvich [00:21:03]:
Yeah.
Cassie Kellner [00:21:04]:
And that's every single practice. Like, oh, gosh, we lost this person. Okay, we're gonna have to shift here and do this and that. And that's the coachable piece.
Jillian Locvich [00:21:14]:
Yeah, absolutely.
Cassie Kellner [00:21:14]:
That's the. Okay, I'm gonna jump in. I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm gonna jump in and we're gonna make it happen.
Jillian Locvich [00:21:20]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Every day I am in that morning huddle. I have those girls in there by 7:15. We are going over our schedule and we are strategizing because one little broken bracket, one. Oh, this wire won't go in. You're struggling for an extra three minutes. Pushes back your schedule so much. You know, you just have to make sure you're on time for everything. And again, you have to have a coachable team. I work with one doctor and two assistants. Literally, me and another girl. I run five chairs. We always make it out to our lunchtimes at 12, and we are always out on time, leaving with our instruments done. Because I make sure it's. It is how it is. You know, I have a wonderful team that makes sure that we all are 110%, 100% of the time, and it's great.
Cassie Kellner [00:22:15]:
Oh, my gosh, Jill, I want to work for you. Okay, so what advice would you give to other people your age in that Gen Z area? Or anyone who really want to show up with authenticity, who. Who need to show up, work hard and make an impact in orthodontics or even beyond orthodontics, you know, would. Do you have any advice for them?
Jillian Locvich [00:22:48]:
I'd say, number one, show up.
Cassie Kellner [00:22:51]:
Yeah, let's just start there.
Jillian Locvich [00:22:53]:
Like, that's the hardest thing for people these days. Just show up, show up, be coachable. The more, you know, the more valuable you are. If there's a situation you're like, I don't really know, get in that chair and just do it. There's always going to be somebody on the side that you could be like, hey, can you help me real quick? Yeah, you're. You're never going to know that thing unless you just do it. Especially in orthodontics. Like, there's never going to be that same mouth, that same thing again. You know, it might be a little similar, but get in there and do it. Do all the things. Because the more, you know, again, the more valuable you are, the more you can do in this field. Because it doesn't just cap out of being a clinical assistant, as, you know, you can do consulting, you can be a rep. There's so many different things. So the more, you know, the more valuable, the more money you make.
Cassie Kellner [00:23:38]:
Yeah.
Jillian Locvich [00:23:39]:
And that, yeah, that's a huge thing.
Cassie Kellner [00:23:41]:
You know, we talk. We've talked about this before. Not on this podcast, but we've talked about how, like, when you're training people and they're so nervous that they're fearful of, like, jumping in and doing a new procedure or, you know what? Can you speak to that at all?
Jillian Locvich [00:24:00]:
For sure. And like, my, like when I just started dentistry, but when I got into orthodontics, I was so excited that I literally was just like, can I do that? No, wait, can I do that? You know, because I was just so excited to have that independence.
Cassie Kellner [00:24:13]:
Yeah.
Jillian Locvich [00:24:14]:
But when training girls And I see their hesitations. The first thing I tell them is that you just have to tell me. You know, I literally, I will stand there and not physically hold your hand, of course, but I will stand there and I'll hold your hand, talk through it. We can go through it step by step. I can do half. You can do half? You can watch me do it. I just want to make sure you're comfortable working in that practice, in our practice, on our patients, and that you're, you know, you're comfortably skilled. You know, not everybody's 100%, but you have. You can work on it as long as you have the help and the support. I think support is huge in the office that not every office gives.
Cassie Kellner [00:24:53]:
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. Okay, are you ready? We're gonna do a rapid fire. Okay.
Jillian Locvich [00:25:00]:
Yeah.
Cassie Kellner [00:25:00]:
Are you sure?
Jillian Locvich [00:25:01]:
I'm ready.
Cassie Kellner [00:25:01]:
Okay, here we go. Okay, ready. From a. From a millennial to a Gen Z er. Okay. Texting or calling?
Jillian Locvich [00:25:10]:
Calling. You can pay me enough to write you a novel in that text message. I'm going to call you.
Cassie Kellner [00:25:17]:
This is so true for you. Like, it gives you boomer energy.
Jillian Locvich [00:25:21]:
I can't, dude. Like, especially how much we talk and how much emotion. Like, look at my hands. If you're watching this, you've seen how much we're talking with our hands.
Cassie Kellner [00:25:30]:
Like, totally.
Jillian Locvich [00:25:31]:
I need to. I constantly. I'm FaceTiming people. My boyfriend, specifically. We just talked about him. He's. He doesn't like to call. I'll call him.
Cassie Kellner [00:25:38]:
What?
Jillian Locvich [00:25:41]:
That's just how he is. I know he's not mad. He just doesn't like to do it. But I love to call. Like, I even do voice messages. Like, those little audio messages.
Cassie Kellner [00:25:49]:
Oh, girl.
Jillian Locvich [00:25:50]:
All the time. Because I just. You can't bother me to text.
Cassie Kellner [00:25:53]:
It's so funny. Yeah. Voice, voice. Voice notes are like. I feel like I need to jump on the voice note train.
Jillian Locvich [00:26:00]:
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Cassie Kellner [00:26:01]:
Voice note.
Jillian Locvich [00:26:03]:
No, I love it because you can, you know, you hear all those expressions. You know exactly what they're saying. Like, when you type out, oh, girl. Like, you don't really know they're saying oh, girl. You know?
Cassie Kellner [00:26:13]:
I mean, you do, though. If I text you, then you can hear me say it. Right?
Jillian Locvich [00:26:17]:
Right. But like a stranger, my nail girl, she voice memos me all the time, and we're not even that close. So what? Voice memo or audio fact that you're.
Cassie Kellner [00:26:30]:
25 and have a nail girl?
Jillian Locvich [00:26:33]:
Oh, I gotta go to the same girl every time. I'm a creature of habit. Hair girl, nail girl. All of the above.
Cassie Kellner [00:26:40]:
Jilly. Oh, God, I love it. Okay, ready? Instagram or TikTok?
Jillian Locvich [00:26:47]:
Neither. I'm on Pinterest, like, 90% of the time. You're gonna catch me on Pinterest. There is so much on there that people do not utilize. Recipes, organization outfits, packing planners, calendars, hair inspo, nail inspo. All of the above. You can do a dream board. There's so much you can do on Pinterest.
Cassie Kellner [00:27:11]:
You're telling me right now you're on Pinterest more than you're on TikTok?
Jillian Locvich [00:27:15]:
Oh, 100%. Not gonna lie. I'm on TikTok. That's the other 5%, because I do do Instagram, too. Those split that 10%. Pinterest is 90 all the way. I love Pinterest. Me and my best friend, actually, we always. We send each other Pinterests more than we send each other TikToks.
Cassie Kellner [00:27:35]:
What?
Jillian Locvich [00:27:36]:
Yes. Pinterest all day. If you're not on Pinterest, get on Pinterest.
Cassie Kellner [00:27:42]:
Wait, I love Pinterest. Don't get me wrong. I'm not. I'm. I'm. I don't go. I. Okay, here's how my old brain uses Pinterest. If I'm, like, going on vacation or I have, like, a cute hat that I'm going to wear on vacation, then I'll. My. Actually, Dave, your uncle, you know very, very, very well. My husband, everyone, one time he saw me Pinterest outfits with hats. And now every time I'm on Pinterest, he's just like, what are you doing? Looking up outfits with hats.
Jillian Locvich [00:28:12]:
But it's so true that I do that.
Cassie Kellner [00:28:14]:
I'm like, yeah, if I'm going to, like, a big meeting and I want, like, a outfit, I'm getting inspo.
Jillian Locvich [00:28:21]:
Yeah. Do you remember when you were sending me the green shoes or the pink shoes and I literally was on Pinterest, like, finding your exact pink blazer suit to match with the shoes.
Cassie Kellner [00:28:35]:
J. Yeah.
Jillian Locvich [00:28:36]:
That's what Pinterest is for. There's so many other things, though.
Cassie Kellner [00:28:40]:
Oh, God. Okay. I love this. Okay. All right, ready? Meme culture or it's gif, right?
Jillian Locvich [00:28:47]:
Yeah, it's not.
Cassie Kellner [00:28:49]:
Jeff, should we set the record straight that it's not gif? It's gif.
Jillian Locvich [00:28:54]:
Yeah.
Cassie Kellner [00:28:55]:
It's because I feel like people don't know. Okay. Meme culture or GIFs gifts.
Jillian Locvich [00:29:00]:
You know me. I. When I text you, like, I'm sending GIFs.
Cassie Kellner [00:29:03]:
Yeah.
Jillian Locvich [00:29:04]:
All the time. I love those. I'm probably the only person left on the world that scrolls all the way down to find the little images to go through them. Because it's not at the very top of your messages anymore.
Cassie Kellner [00:29:17]:
Oh, no, it's not. You're right.
Jillian Locvich [00:29:22]:
No. Because I don't think it's that common. I send them to you all the time.
Cassie Kellner [00:29:25]:
Me, too.
Jillian Locvich [00:29:26]:
Me too. People don't send them back.
Cassie Kellner [00:29:28]:
I know. I. Me too.
Jillian Locvich [00:29:30]:
And you can just type in one word, like, overwhelmed, and it sends you a bunch of stuff. I love it.
Cassie Kellner [00:29:35]:
This morning, Larry said no to my husband. He, like, wanted something at Costco, and I sent, like, a Steve Carell from the office, and he was like, no, and all I did was send a gift. That's it. Yeah.
Jillian Locvich [00:29:46]:
See? One word answer, that's all you need.
Cassie Kellner [00:29:48]:
Okay. All right. Morning person or night owl? I think I know.
Jillian Locvich [00:29:52]:
Morning person.
Cassie Kellner [00:29:52]:
Yeah.
Jillian Locvich [00:29:53]:
Yep. Morning person. I'm in bed. Yeah, I'm in bed by 7pm most nights.
Cassie Kellner [00:30:01]:
I would say that's giving boomer energy, but I feel like boomers stay up really late.
Jillian Locvich [00:30:05]:
Oh, yeah. Especially my grandma. Your mom.
Cassie Kellner [00:30:08]:
Yeah.
Jillian Locvich [00:30:08]:
Homegirl sending us stuff from, like, 1:00am and I'm like, why are you awake? I'm getting up in four hours.
Cassie Kellner [00:30:19]:
Oh, it's so true. She's going to be so bad when she hears this. All right.
Jillian Locvich [00:30:23]:
Oh, yeah.
Cassie Kellner [00:30:24]:
Okay. Collaboration or independent work?
Jillian Locvich [00:30:28]:
Oh, that's a good one. It's kind of hard to answer. I think I would prefer independent, just depending on really what it is. Just because I'm kind of a control freak. The more I get, the older I get, the more I realize I have to control everything. So independent. But I'm. I'm always down to be a team player. Don't get me wrong.
Cassie Kellner [00:30:55]:
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right, last one. What's your favorite slang word right now?
Jillian Locvich [00:31:01]:
Oh, gosh, now this is gonna sound so Gen Z. Okay, good.
Cassie Kellner [00:31:05]:
What? What is it? Am I gonna know what it is?
Jillian Locvich [00:31:08]:
Yeah, you will. I just sent you the video yesterday.
Cassie Kellner [00:31:10]:
Oh, gosh. Did I watch it?
Jillian Locvich [00:31:13]:
I hope so. It's from TikTok. There's. It's like a parody, I think, for the office. And there's just this really funny guy on there. He's, like, awkward. His name's Chit. And he was doing, like, a birthday card for one of their office ladies, and he wrote, do it, Lady. And they were like, what does that mean? And he was like, do it, lady. And they're like, do what? And he's like, do it all.
Cassie Kellner [00:31:38]:
Do it.
Jillian Locvich [00:31:39]:
Do it all. Why not? Do it, Lady. And so I sent that to my coworker Aubrey, when I first saw it a couple months ago, and now all we say is, do it, lady. She even has her sons saying, do it, lady, who are 12 and 9. They're over here. Do it, Lady. They don't even know who it is. So that is my favorite slang.
Cassie Kellner [00:32:05]:
I love it. That's what we're gonna name this podcast. Do it Lady.
Jillian Locvich [00:32:09]:
Do it, Lady.
Cassie Kellner [00:32:10]:
Jillian Locvich.
Jillian Locvich [00:32:12]:
Oh, I love it. That'd be perfect.
Cassie Kellner [00:32:14]:
Oh, my gosh. Jillian Locvich, My most beautiful niece in the entire world. I am so proud of you. You are so smart and so humble and so dedicated, and I am. I couldn't be prouder. You know this. I tell you this all the time. I. I'm so. I'm so honored that one. You were born when I was 16 years old that I, you know, I'm. I am your aunt, and we are very close, but I'm more like a big sister at this point as you start to get older, and I'm. I'm. I'm honored to get to watch you grow into this. There's still so much more to come for you, and I can't thank you enough for sharing your Gen Z ways with everyone today. Even though you have, you know, both millennial and boomer tendencies so well.
Jillian Locvich [00:33:12]:
I'm happy to share them all. Thank you so much for having me. Likewise to everything that you just said. I'm really honored to be a part of the Everboom family and watch it, watch it grow, and watch all of its amazing success, because I know that it's just going to keep blossoming.
Cassie Kellner [00:33:29]:
Oh, my God. I love you. Thanks for joining me.
Jillian Locvich [00:33:32]:
Love you.
Cassie Kellner [00:33:35]:
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